Too suffer wrong or do wrong

Betrayal threatens faith in people, sometimes for life. But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it?

Deserved vs. How so, my good friend? Else we go 'round and 'round and get nowhere. Our bodies hurt when our minds hurt.

Too suffer wrong or do wrong

Undeserved Suffering In response to a man suffering because of his own reckless sin, who kept saying: "I feel like Job", by Dean VanDruff. I know this is a hard message, but I am trying to make your path straight and strengthen what is feeble in you.

Tell me where you draw the line. If a man does something for an object, he does not wish the thing that he does, but the thing for which he does it. We have three options. God could have easily healed David's son, but God achieved a greater good by teaching David that his sin would find him out. Deserved vs. Imagine your own son not just weeping after a spanking, but throwing a tantrum and banging his head against the wall and recoiling into a corner, glowering, etc. What is that I see, Polus? Do they deserve to? How do we then respond? POLUS: Do you not think yourself utterly refuted, Socrates, when you make such statements as nobody in the world would assent to? But my new discovery as discoveries tend to do opened my eyes to other things. For I say, Polus, that the orators and the despots alike have the least power in their cities, as I stated just now; since they do nothing [e] that they wish to do, practically speaking, though they do whatever they think to be best. When the other two friends lost their loved ones, this lesson proved helpful again. Do good people, by virtue of the good things they do, not deserve to?

Do you wish to refute that as well? Stop failing by wanting to throw-off this practice cross, for if you keep doing so there is little chance you will "take up" a cross in the future that you don't deserve. Pardon me, I say yes.

it is better to suffer evil than to do it

To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps. I do hope you see the point.

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